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	I am personally insulted & furious about their accusations against my father, knowing that it is they who are the guilty ones, guilty of the very things they accuse him of, which makes their story so preposterous!		I am personally insulted & furious about their accusations against my father, knowing that it is they who are the guilty ones, guilty of the very things they accuse him of, which makes their story so preposterous!

	No, we do not believe in or practice [[:Category:Incest\|incest]]! But I know for a fact that Bill Davis does, because he personally confessed to me about his sexual relationship with his daughter Joyanne. She was the age of 12 at the time. Why doesn't he confess his own sins, including how he got my sister Linda addicted to drugs & under his complete control, for which he was also excommunicated, as drug-taking & violence ~~arc~~ absolutely forbidden in our Family!		No, we do not believe in or practice [[:Category:Incest\|incest]]! But I know for a fact that Bill Davis does, because he personally confessed to me about his sexual relationship with his daughter Joyanne. She was the age of 12 at the time. Why doesn't he confess his own sins, including how he got my sister Linda addicted to drugs & under his complete control, for which he was also excommunicated, as drug-taking & violence are absolutely forbidden in our Family!

	To say that my father would ever abuse or hurt one of his own children, or for that matter anyone, is the most outrageous lie that can be told about him! And he certainly never molested or abused nor hurt me or anyone else! I'm a 37 year-old woman with 20 years of fulltime missionary work behind me, and I don't appreciate being used as a scapegoat for my sister's tremendous drug-induced psychological problems, which is proven by the fact that she cannot any longer tell what is truth & what is a lie, what are fantasies & what is reality!		To say that my father would ever abuse or hurt one of his own children, or for that matter anyone, is the most outrageous lie that can be told about him! And he certainly never molested or abused nor hurt me or anyone else! I'm a 37 year-old woman with 20 years of fulltime missionary work behind me, and I don't appreciate being used as a scapegoat for my sister's tremendous drug-induced psychological problems, which is proven by the fact that she cannot any longer tell what is truth & what is a lie, what are fantasies & what is reality!

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	63. On the subject of custody papers, as aforementioned, the court will grant "temporary custody" to the ~~Svstemite~~ parent requesting this, valid until both parents come to court. Likewise in a divorce, the Judge usually decides on child custody in favour of the System-backed spouse.		63. On the subject of custody papers, as aforementioned, the court will grant "temporary custody" to the Systemite parent requesting this, valid until both parents come to court. Likewise in a divorce, the Judge usually decides on child custody in favour of the System-backed spouse.

	64. Regarding divorce prompted by an ex-mate who goes back, you could lose your rights to the children by this same reasoning. If you stay married on paper, you at least still have a right to some of the children.		64. Regarding divorce prompted by an ex-mate who goes back, you could lose your rights to the children by this same reasoning. If you stay married on paper, you at least still have a right to some of the children.

Panglossolalia: /* PLEASE REALISE THAT: */ fix link and correct OCR error

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	3. The miscellaneous ten-Dollar birthday gifts & trinkets from grandparents & System relatives can actually be a harmful influence & create a very dangerous bridge back to the System for your children.		3. The miscellaneous ten-Dollar birthday gifts & trinkets from grandparents & System relatives can actually be a harmful influence & create a very dangerous bridge back to the System for your children.

	4. It's actually [[FreeCOG]] advice to relatives of cult members interested in getting their "children" back, that they help financially from time to time with small gifts in order to "keep cult members on the line" & thus give the impression they are favourable & supportive, rather than running the risk of cutting off contact entirely.—- While we ~~arc~~ missionaries who need the financial support, we can also easily fall prey to compromise for [[:Category:Finances\|financial[[ gain.—So beware!		4. It's actually [[FreeCOG]] advice to relatives of cult members interested in getting their "children" back, that they help financially from time to time with small gifts in order to "keep cult members on the line" & thus give the impression they are favourable & supportive, rather than running the risk of cutting off contact entirely.—- While we are missionaries who need the financial support, we can also easily fall prey to compromise for [[:Category:Finances\|financial]] gain.—So beware!

	5. Through this rather compromising position we can get ourselves into, we could easily become pressured into a decision of moral or financial obligation to visit our parents with the children or receive them in our [[Home\|Homes]] when they visit etc.		5. Through this rather compromising position we can get ourselves into, we could easily become pressured into a decision of moral or financial obligation to visit our parents with the children or receive them in our [[Home\|Homes]] when they visit etc.

	===BEWARE OF BACKSLIDERS:===		===BEWARE OF BACKSLIDERS:===

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	30. If for some reason you are cornered or somehow forced into being separated from your children for a brief period while they're in the care of System relatives, find out exactly where they're staying & personally check in by phone to try to feel out what's going on. Of course, do everything you can to avoid falling into such terribly dangerous circumstances, but if for some reason you & your kids are separated like this, try to keep in touch with your children by phone. Ask them if they've noticed anything unusual going on or it looks like they're preparing for a trip etc., & let them know that you don't know anything about it, so if any plans change to please let you know right away. Encourage. them to feel free to ask any questions they want by phone. 31. Find out if your ex-mate is with them all the time or off alone part of the time "doing business"; if so, get suspicious, because he or she could be at your embassy or consulate getting new passports issued for the kids in order to steal them!		30. If for some reason you are cornered or somehow forced into being separated from your children for a brief period while they're in the care of System relatives, find out exactly where they're staying & personally check in by phone to try to feel out what's going on. Of course, do everything you can to avoid falling into such terribly dangerous circumstances, but if for some reason you & your kids are separated like this, try to keep in touch with your children by phone. Ask them if they've noticed anything unusual going on or it looks like they're preparing for a trip etc., & let them know that you don't know anything about it, so if any plans change to please let you know right away. Encourage. them to feel free to ask any questions they want by phone.

			31. Find out if your ex-mate is with them all the time or off alone part of the time "doing business"; if so, get suspicious, because he or she could be at your embassy or consulate getting new passports issued for the kids in order to steal them!

	32. Regularly check with the front desk of the hotel that they are staying at, to monitor if they have checked out of the hotel yet or are still there.		32. Regularly check with the front desk of the hotel that they are staying at, to monitor if they have checked out of the hotel yet or are still there.
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	38. If caught in a situation where it's life & death, to save your sheep from non-official abductors, don't allow yourself to be intimidated!— A good shepherd is willing to lay down his own life if necessary! "Might is right" at a time like that, & sometimes all the World understands is force or a threat! Go on the attack to do whatever is necessary to save your little ones.		38. If caught in a situation where it's life & death, to save your sheep from non-official abductors, don't allow yourself to be intimidated!— A good shepherd is willing to lay down his own life if necessary! "Might is right" at a time like that, & sometimes all the World understands is force or a threat! Go on the attack to do whatever is necessary to save your little ones.

	39. If a backslidden ex-mate has kidnapped your children, you should by all means count them as an enemy & "hate them with a perfect hatred."—Psa. 139:22.—If you don't, maybe you need specific prayer to take a stand against them & their evil spirit so you'll not in any way be duped or under their influence.—Curse them that curse you!		39. If a backslidden ex-mate has kidnapped your children, you should by all means count them as an enemy & "hate them with a perfect hatred."—Psa. 139:22.—If you don't, maybe you need specific prayer to take a stand against them & their evil spirit so you'll not in any way be duped or under their influence.—Curse them that curse you!

	===CUSTODY LAWS:===		===CUSTODY LAWS:===

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	The RNR then happened & we were free to go on our own faith, so we went to Texas & he got a job. We got our own place, received food stamps & were living in a comfortable position with a set income, company car etc. Although we technically weren't out of the Family, he began liking the life he was living more & more. He refused to ever fitness "like a beggar" again. One day I asked him why he joined the Family & he said, "Because of the way of life"—he had been a roving hippie—but not because of Jesus & lost souls. We then decided to separate.		The RNR then happened & we were free to go on our own faith, so we went to Texas & he got a job. We got our own place, received food stamps & were living in a comfortable position with a set income, company car etc. Although we technically weren't out of the Family, he began liking the life he was living more & more. He refused to ever fitness "like a beggar" again. One day I asked him why he joined the Family & he said, "Because of the way of life"—he had been a roving hippie—but not because of Jesus & lost souls. We then decided to separate.

	After a few months apart I met my present mate, & although the Lord told me to ~~syay~~ with him, I felt it was my duty yo return to my backslidden husband & try to gain him back! It only took one month before I wanted to leave, as I wasn't allowed to serve the Lord or tithe, & he wanted me to take birth control etc.—But due to my weakness for him I gave him two of the children & I kept two & returned to Texas!		After a few months apart I met my present mate, & although the Lord told me to stay with him, I felt it was my duty to return to my backslidden husband & try to gain him back! It only took one month before I wanted to leave, as I wasn't allowed to serve the Lord or tithe, & he wanted me to take birth control etc.—But due to my weakness for him I gave him two of the children & I kept two & returned to Texas!

	However, in 3 months time he returned the two children to me because he was having a hard time paying for their upkeep, & this put the pressure on. After this we got a legal divorce & 1 got custody of all four kids. I didn't hold him to child support but he usually sent $50-1 (X) a month. Before heading to Latin America, I allowed him to visit the children while we were on the road, & sad to say, it was a turning point where my eldest daughter was then to be reminded of "her sweet Daddy she loved", & thus began turning away from my new mate, D.		However, in 3 months time he returned the two children to me because he was having a hard time paying for their upkeep, & this put the pressure on. After this we got a legal divorce & 1 got custody of all four kids. I didn't hold him to child support but he usually sent $50-1 (X) a month. Before heading to Latin America, I allowed him to visit the children while we were on the road, & sad to say, it was a turning point where my eldest daughter was then to be reminded of "her sweet Daddy she loved", & thus began turning away from my new mate, D.

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	This is Faith David, the daughter of my Father Moses David and sister of Linda Davis. "Deborah" is a "Bible" or "Family" name, which she should no longer use, or even wish to use publicly since she is no longer a member of our great Worldwide Missionary Family. She was in fact excommunicated 10 years ago from our fellowship when she & her husband, Bill Davis, persisted in abusing children & their positions of leadership to the detriment & harm of our members in Latin America.		This is Faith David, the daughter of my Father Moses David and sister of Linda Davis. "Deborah" is a "Bible" or "Family" name, which she should no longer use, or even wish to use publicly since she is no longer a member of our great Worldwide Missionary Family. She was in fact excommunicated 10 years ago from our fellowship when she & her husband, Bill Davis, persisted in abusing children & their positions of leadership to the detriment & harm of our members in Latin America.

	Bill Davis was an insane child-abuser & schizophrenic violent psychopath, whose word should not be taken by anybody, but who actually deserves to be prosecuted & locked up as true justice for the crimes I was an eyewitness of when living in their home in Peru! His crimes of abuse of his own children & others' children ~~arc~~ too numerous to list here and for which he was excommunicated from our Family!		Bill Davis was an insane child-abuser & schizophrenic violent psychopath, whose word should not be taken by anybody, but who actually deserves to be prosecuted & locked up as true justice for the crimes I was an eyewitness of when living in their home in Peru! His crimes of abuse of his own children & others' children are too numerous to list here and for which he was excommunicated from our Family!

	I am personally insulted & furious about their accusations against my father, knowing that it is they who are the guilty ones, guilty of the very things they accuse him of, which makes their story so preposterous!		I am personally insulted & furious about their accusations against my father, knowing that it is they who are the guilty ones, guilty of the very things they accuse him of, which makes their story so preposterous!

	No, we do not believe in or practice incest! But I know for a fact that Bill Davis docs, ~~be cause~~ he personally confessed to me about his sexual relationship with his daughter Joyanne. She was the age of 12 at the time. Why doesn't he confess his own sins, including how he got my sister Linda addicted to drugs & under his complete control, for which he was also excommunicated, as drug-taking & violence arc absolutely forbidden in our Family!		No, we do not believe in or practice incest! But I know for a fact that Bill Davis docs, because he personally confessed to me about his sexual relationship with his daughter Joyanne. She was the age of 12 at the time. Why doesn't he confess his own sins, including how he got my sister Linda addicted to drugs & under his complete control, for which he was also excommunicated, as drug-taking & violence arc absolutely forbidden in our Family!

	To say that my father would ever abuse or hurt one of his own children, or for that matter anyone, is the most outrageous lie that can be told about him! And he certainly never molested or abused nor hurt me or anyone else! I'm a 37 year- old woman with 20 years of fulltime missionary work behind me, and I don't appreciate being used as a scapegoat for my sister's tremendous drug-induced psychological problems, which is proven by the fact that she cannot any longer tell what is truth & what is a lie, what are fantasies & what is reality!		To say that my father would ever abuse or hurt one of his own children, or for that matter anyone, is the most outrageous lie that can be told about him! And he certainly never molested or abused nor hurt me or anyone else! I'm a 37 year-old woman with 20 years of fulltime missionary work behind me, and I don't appreciate being used as a scapegoat for my sister's tremendous drug-induced psychological problems, which is proven by the fact that she cannot any longer tell what is truth & what is a lie, what are fantasies & what is reality!

	I challenge & deny any & every false accusation she has made against my father or myself or our Family of missionaries, who are giving their lives in sacrificial service daily to obey Jesus* command to "Go ye into all the World & preach the Gospel to every creature", "making disciples of all nations" & have the "good fruit" to prove we are indeed the "Children of God" & not the "children of the Devil" that she has depicted in her book!—A book for which she was well-paid by our jealous, hypocritical, religious enemies, just like Judas of old was paid by Jesus' religious enemies!		I challenge & deny any & every false accusation she has made against my father or myself or our Family of missionaries, who are giving their lives in sacrificial service daily to obey Jesus* command to "Go ye into all the World & preach the Gospel to every creature", "making disciples of all nations" & have the "good fruit" to prove we are indeed the "Children of God" & not the "children of the Devil" that she has depicted in her book!—A book for which she was well-paid by our jealous, hypocritical, religious enemies, just like Judas of old was paid by Jesus' religious enemies!

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	63. On the subject of custody papers, as aforementioned, the court will grant "temporary custody" to the Svstemite parent requesting this, valid until both parents come to court. Likewise in a divorce, the Judge usually decides on child custody in favour of the System-backed spouse. 64. Regarding divorce prompted by an ex- mate who goes back, you could lose your rights to the children by this same reasoning. If you stay married on paper, you at least still have a right to some of the children.		63. On the subject of custody papers, as aforementioned, the court will grant "temporary custody" to the Svstemite parent requesting this, valid until both parents come to court. Likewise in a divorce, the Judge usually decides on child custody in favour of the System-backed spouse.

			64. Regarding divorce prompted by an ex-mate who goes back, you could lose your rights to the children by this same reasoning. If you stay married on paper, you at least still have a right to some of the children.

	65. As a general rule, the American courts frown on either party that is living outside of the United States & one of the stipulations for the custody papers is that you don't leave the country, so don't broadcast your plans to leave! —As if you did have to go to court again, they would take the children out of your custody, considering you the offending party.		65. As a general rule, the American courts frown on either party that is living outside of the United States & one of the stipulations for the custody papers is that you don't leave the country, so don't broadcast your plans to leave! —As if you did have to go to court again, they would take the children out of your custody, considering you the offending party.

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	63. On the subject of custody papers, as aforementioned, the court will grant "temporary custody" to the Svstemite parent requesting this, valid until both parents come to court. Likewise in a divorce, the Judge usually decides on child custody in favour of the System-backed spouse. 64. Regarding divorce prompted by an ex- mate who goes back, you could lose your rights to the children by this same reasoning. If you stay married on paper, you at least still have a right to some of the children.		63. On the subject of custody papers, as aforementioned, the court will grant "temporary custody" to the Svstemite parent requesting this, valid until both parents come to court. Likewise in a divorce, the Judge usually decides on child custody in favour of the System-backed spouse. 64. Regarding divorce prompted by an ex- mate who goes back, you could lose your rights to the children by this same reasoning. If you stay married on paper, you at least still have a right to some of the children.

	65. As a general rule, the American courts frown on either party that is living outside of the United States. & one of the stipulations for the custody papers is that you don't leave the country, so don't broadcast your plans to leave! —As if you did have to go to court again, they would take the children out of your custody, considering you the offending party.		65. As a general rule, the American courts frown on either party that is living outside of the United States & one of the stipulations for the custody papers is that you don't leave the country, so don't broadcast your plans to leave! —As if you did have to go to court again, they would take the children out of your custody, considering you the offending party.

	66. Watch out about lawyers who are in it just for the money, as they know that these cases over children are quite tricky & cost a lot of money for their services rendered. Just calling them at night to talk about a certain situation can run you $50-200 an hour!		66. Watch out about lawyers who are in it just for the money, as they know that these cases over children are quite tricky & cost a lot of money for their services rendered. Just calling them at night to talk about a certain situation can run you $50-200 an hour!

	67. If the children are regained legally, it should be stated that visitation rights will be worked out between the two parties themselves so as not to be bound by law on this point.		67. If the children are regained legally, it should be stated that visitation rights will be worked out between the two parties themselves so as not to be bound by law on this point.

	===FURTHER FACTS & ADVICE:===		===FURTHER FACTS & ADVICE:===