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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;ZACK ATTACK ULTIMATUM!&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;       DO 2719       8/91&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;1. Zack is extremely self-righteous&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;! He thinks he&amp;#039;s &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;somebody&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; when he&amp;#039;s &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;nothing&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;; in fact, he&amp;#039;s &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;worse&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; than nothing! He&amp;#039;s being a terrible bad example. It reminds me of the card I sent my brother one time.--It said, &amp;quot;You&amp;#039;re not &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;entirely&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; worthless, you&amp;#039;re a &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;dandy&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; bad &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;example&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;2. He needs to wake up to the fact that he&amp;#039;s nothing&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;. (Maria: He&amp;#039;s been too exalted.) Oh yes! And he needs to wake up to the fact that he&amp;#039;s &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;worse&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; than nothing by being a &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;problem&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; taking so many people&amp;#039;s time!--Even reaching clear to the top &amp;amp; having to take up your time &amp;amp; mine. When problems get &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;that&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; far, I&amp;#039;ve always said that&amp;#039;s as far as they&amp;#039;re going to go. That&amp;#039;s &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;it&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;! They&amp;#039;ve had it! So I hope I made that clear to him in that &amp;quot;Grumblers Get Out&amp;quot; Letter. (Maria: Yes, Sir!)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;3. I don&amp;#039;t know that he&amp;#039;ll ever really break or crack without having to get his sample of the System&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;. I think he&amp;#039;s just about gone too far on our mercy unless he shows a &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;tremendous&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; repentance &amp;amp; a &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;tremendous&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; confession! Otherwise, I&amp;#039;m still for throwing him out. I don&amp;#039;t know that he can learn his lesson any other way. We put up with some of these problem cases too long! We need to have the faith that &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Gideon&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; had &amp;amp; just get &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;rid&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; of them, &amp;amp; then the Lord could give us real victory! (The story of the purge of Gideon&amp;#039;s army is found in Judges Chapter 7.)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;4. Frankly, I&amp;#039;d almost like him to get a good taste of the System&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; then he&amp;#039;d never want it again! That&amp;#039;s what it took with &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;me&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, &amp;amp; I almost died out there in the army hospital! So I&amp;#039;ll tell you, God deals pretty tough with backsliders! &amp;quot;The way of the transgressor is &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;hard&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;,&amp;quot; &amp;amp; maybe that&amp;#039;s what he needs.--Pro.13:15.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;5. Has he ever had any kind of a humbling&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;--any kind of experience that made him &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;know&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; that he&amp;#039;s not worth anything &amp;amp; that he can be thankful he&amp;#039;s got anything at all? (Maria: No, I don&amp;#039;t believe he has. I think that&amp;#039;s been part of the problem.) It sounds like he&amp;#039;s never realised what a sinner he really is. (Maria: No, it doesn&amp;#039;t sound like it.)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;6.&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; (&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Maria: If you&amp;#039;re saved when you&amp;#039;re a little tiny tot&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, you&amp;#039;re &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;told&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; you&amp;#039;re a sinner, but you don&amp;#039;t really understand or comprehend it fully.) But you usually become aware of it later, &amp;amp; you get down to where you know you&amp;#039;re not anything! You &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;know&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; you&amp;#039;re nothing &amp;amp; you&amp;#039;re just thankful that the Lord loved you at all &amp;amp; you can&amp;#039;t even understand why He did, nor why He saved you! I&amp;#039;ll tell you, that&amp;#039;s something I&amp;#039;m constantly aware of--that I&amp;#039;m &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;nothing&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;--&amp;amp; I&amp;#039;m just thankful that the Lord will even put up with me at all! Has he &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;ever&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; felt like that? (Maria: I hope that through this &amp;quot;spanking&amp;quot; he&amp;#039;s finally realised that.) He sure doesn&amp;#039;t sound like he believes that. Instead he sounds more like, &amp;quot;I&amp;#039;m a &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;good&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; guy &amp;amp; everybody ought to look up to me!--And the Lord ought to be thankful to have me!&amp;quot; (Maria: Yes, that&amp;#039;s the way he&amp;#039;s acted. It&amp;#039;s true.)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;7. I wonder if he ever felt like a sinner &amp;amp; was thankful to be saved&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;? Unless you know you&amp;#039;re bad &amp;amp; need Jesus&amp;#039; goodness, you won&amp;#039;t be able to appreciate your Salvation because you don&amp;#039;t see that you &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;need&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; any help. Maybe he won&amp;#039;t get that way until he gets out into the World &amp;amp; realises what a sinner he really is, then cries for help, like the Prodigal Son. I&amp;#039;m sorry, but I don&amp;#039;t have much patience with backsliders!--Especially &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;self-righteous&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; backsliders who think they&amp;#039;re better than everybody else, &amp;amp; therefore they&amp;#039;re better than the &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Family&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, &amp;amp; therefore they backslide! It&amp;#039;s a common ailment of backsliders.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;8. So maybe that&amp;#039;s the best thing that could happen to him, to backslide&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; get back in the awful, God-damned, hell-of-a-pit &amp;amp; then cry for &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;mercy&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;! I&amp;#039;m sick &amp;amp; fed-up with him myself! We&amp;#039;ve strung things out too long with him already. Goodnight!--Two whole &amp;#039;&amp;#039;GNs&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of Letters about him &amp;amp; now one more coming! It&amp;#039;s just too much, except for the &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;lesson&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; it will be to &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;others&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;. (Maria: I think that&amp;#039;s the main reason the Lord has allowed it.)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;9. Either he straightens out &amp;amp; does so quickly, or he&amp;#039;s out as far as I&amp;#039;m concerned&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;! In fact, he&amp;#039;s done enough already to merit being kicked out, &amp;amp; he&amp;#039;ll have to show one supernatural, miraculous change for me to tolerate him any longer! He&amp;#039;s wasted too many people&amp;#039;s time, &amp;amp; wasted too much of the Family&amp;#039;s time &amp;amp; gone on for &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;years&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; this way. For God&amp;#039;s sake, let&amp;#039;s get &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;rid&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; of him! I just &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;hate&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; to put up with a character like that! He&amp;#039;s just a &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;troublemaker&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, almost like the Devil himself!&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;10. I got to thinking &amp;amp; praying about him&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; the thing that came to me was that he&amp;#039;s just like &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Judas&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, one of Jesus&amp;#039; disciples.--And people like that will eventually &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;betray&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; you if they don&amp;#039;t &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;repent&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; get straightened out &amp;amp; get really &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;knocked down&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;broken&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;humbled&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;beg&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; to come back to the Father&amp;#039;s house, like the Prodigal Son!&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;11. No more Letters about Zack Attack&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;! We&amp;#039;re going to &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;attack&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; Zack!--And he can get the hell &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;out&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; of here as far as I&amp;#039;m concerned if he doesn&amp;#039;t &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;repent&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;!&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;(Comments given a few days later during a Bible Study with the Family:)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;12. When you&amp;#039;re not keeping close to the Lord &amp;amp; are out of the Spirit, it&amp;#039;s almost always easier to criticise, &amp;amp; to murmur &amp;amp; complain&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; than it is to be thanking &amp;amp; praising God for all your blessings! And if you do that, you&amp;#039;ll always get a lot of sympathy from all the &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;rest&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; of the murmurers &amp;amp; complainers &amp;amp; critics &amp;amp; people who don&amp;#039;t like the way things are run or the way things are done. We&amp;#039;re having a very shining dandy bad example of that right now in this affair over Zack Attack. He&amp;#039;s been on the attack &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;against&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; the Family &amp;amp; &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;against&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; its leadership.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;13. I can&amp;#039;t believe that our people would have put up with it for so long&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;! It&amp;#039;s never been &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;my&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; policy to allow people like that to go on attacking. But it seems by his attacking that he has actually climbed the ladder of leadership into responsible positions!--Maybe because our leaders were so unsure of themselves, so humble &amp;amp; so yielded, that they thought maybe he was right &amp;amp; that maybe they &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;ought&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; to &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;let&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; him go ahead &amp;amp; voice his complaints &amp;amp; grumblings.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;14. Zack Attack has been attacking the Family &amp;amp; its leadership&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;. He sure picked the right name! I don&amp;#039;t know where he got that idea. But because of his musical talent, leadership talent, intelligence &amp;amp; everything, he seems to have climbed the ladder of fame in the Family.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;15. People kept ignoring his disputations &amp;amp; his murmurings&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; his complainings &amp;amp; bellyachings &amp;amp; criticism of leadership. &amp;quot;Oh, but he&amp;#039;s such a good boy, he has tremendous potential,&amp;quot; etc., etc. So they let him climb up carrying this load of negative thinking with him.--Until finally his leaders began having so much trouble with him voicing his discontent, even saying he&amp;#039;d rather go back to the System because at least a System boss would only be able to boss him around 8 hours a day &amp;amp; he&amp;#039;d have the other 16 hours to himself! He said, &amp;quot;In the Family they boss you around 24 hours a day,&amp;quot; blah blah! Let me tell you, it&amp;#039;s a &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;privilege&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; to be in this Family, &amp;amp; people need to learn that!&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;1)&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; Please discuss what you learned from this Letter about the dangers of self-righteousness. Do &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;you&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; have a problem with being self-righteous? If so, what do you think you should &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;do&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; about it?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       a) Do a Word study on self-righteousness. (Start with the &amp;quot;Self-Righteousness&amp;quot; Letter in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;DB8&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, pg.155, &amp;amp; then see the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Daily-Dex&amp;#039;&amp;#039; for a list of pubs on the subject.)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       b) Ask the Lord to help you see the negative effects of being self-righteous &amp;amp; where it can lead to.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       c) Have united prayer against it.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       d) Ask your Shepherds, parents, &amp;amp; coworkers or peers to safeguard you by pointing it out to you when your words, actions or attitudes seem to be self-righteous.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       e) Learn to recognise the different &amp;quot;symptoms&amp;quot; of self-righteousness such as: Thinking you&amp;#039;re good &amp;amp; that you can do it on your own; leaning on the arm of the flesh &amp;amp; not depending on the Lord; looking down on &amp;amp; being critical of others, &amp;amp; thinking you&amp;#039;re better than they are; being harsh or merciless on others when they make mistakes; trying to be &amp;quot;perfect&amp;quot; &amp;amp; being reluctant to receive correction, admit your mistakes or confess your sins; resisting the Lord&amp;#039;s Will &amp;amp; thinking you know better, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       f) After you see how self-righteousness is manifested in your life, go on the attack to change &amp;amp; break bad habits &amp;amp; wrong attitudes.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       g) Continually remind yourself what a mess you&amp;#039;d be without Jesus&amp;#039; constant help &amp;amp; guidance, &amp;amp; give Him all the glory for anything good you accomplish.)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;2)&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; When Grandpa &amp;amp; Mama Maria discuss how Tony needs to realise that he is a &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;sinner&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, some major principles are brought out. One of the most important points is that through this big &amp;quot;spanking&amp;quot; that the Lord has given Tony, he will hopefully not just be &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;temporarily humbled&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, but he will deeply understand &amp;amp; grasp the fact that he&amp;#039;s &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;not&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; such a &amp;quot;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;good&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; guy,&amp;quot; but that he is &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;nothing&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, &amp;amp; he has to constantly &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;depend&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; on the &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Lord&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;look&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; to the &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Lord&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; let the &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Lord&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; work &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;through&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; him! (Jn.15:5)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       Like Tony, we &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;all&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; need to know &amp;amp; have a certainty that we&amp;#039;re &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;sinners&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, that we &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;can&amp;#039;t&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; do &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;anything&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; good without &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Jesus&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;#039; help, &amp;amp; we need Him desperately. This should be a constant realisation with us, our permanent attitude &amp;amp; state of mind. But this doesn&amp;#039;t mean that we should fall into a state of constant dumps or &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;negative thinking&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; about ourselves or a feeling of condemnation, but rather, we should recognise that we need &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Jesus&amp;#039; goodness every moment of every day&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;. When we understand &amp;amp; believe that, then we&amp;#039;ll walk in humility, knowing we &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;don&amp;#039;t deserve&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;can&amp;#039;t earn&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; the Lord&amp;#039;s Love. Then we&amp;#039;ll depend completely on the Lord&amp;#039;s grace to save us &amp;amp; use us, &amp;amp; we&amp;#039;ll appreciate Salvation &amp;amp; all that the Lord has done for us &amp;amp; we&amp;#039;ll be thankful the Lord loves us &amp;amp; puts up with us.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       Many of you JETTs &amp;amp; Teens probably got saved when you were &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;little children&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, at which time you may not have understood fully that you are a sinner. But now that you&amp;#039;re &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;older&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, have you grown to understand that better? Have you had experiences, such as &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;humblings&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; or &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;breakings&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, that helped you realise what a &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;mess&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; you are without the Lord&amp;#039;s help, experiences that caused you to be pretty much &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;constantly&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; aware of the fact that you need Jesus &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;all&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; the time? If so, please discuss your experiences &amp;amp; the circumstances that surrounded your learning those lessons. How did that affect your relationship with the Lord? If you haven&amp;#039;t gone through any major breakings or humbling experiences, do you often make &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;mistakes&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; on a &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;daily basis&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; find that such mistakes &amp;amp; shortcomings teach you the same lesson? If so, please discuss.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       Why do you think the Lord &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;allows&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; you to think you&amp;#039;re a pretty hopeless case sometimes? (For more food for thought on this subject, please read &amp;quot;The Benefits of Backsliding!&amp;quot;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;DB6&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, page 54.)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;3)&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; Several times in this Letter Grandpa says Tony might &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;need&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; to go to the &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;System&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; to learn his lessons. Grandpa isn&amp;#039;t saying this just because he wants to see Tony &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;suffer&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; or because he&amp;#039;s &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;mad&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; at him or because he doesn&amp;#039;t &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;like&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; him &amp;amp; he&amp;#039;s being &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;mean&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; to him. There are legitimate &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;reasons&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; why Grandpa feels Tony might need to get his fill of the System, &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;unless he truly repents after he hears the ultimatum from Grandpa &amp;amp; Mama Maria&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;. Let&amp;#039;s list some of the possible reasons.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       a) It would be much &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;easier&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; on Tony if he could learn his lessons &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;within the Family&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, where he could partake of the loving help, guidance &amp;amp; counsel of his Shepherds in the Lord. However, so far he hasn&amp;#039;t learned his lessons--&amp;amp; because of his pride &amp;amp; stubbornness &amp;amp; rebellion, he might not be able to learn them any other way than &amp;quot;the hard way&amp;quot; of going out &amp;amp; experiencing the System for himself.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       b) Maybe he needs to feel how tough the Lord can be on backsliders. &amp;quot;The way of the transgressor is hard!&amp;quot;--Pro.13:15.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       c) After a good dose of the System, he&amp;#039;d see how really &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;horrible&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; it is &amp;amp; he&amp;#039;d never want it again. It would cure him of his fascination for the World &amp;amp; his &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;wrong idea&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; about how &amp;quot;good&amp;quot; &amp;amp; &amp;quot;free&amp;quot; life in the System is. After he saw the &amp;quot;awful, God-damned, hell-of-a-pit,&amp;quot; he&amp;#039;d cry for &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;mercy&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;!&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       d) He&amp;#039;d then realise what a &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;sinner&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; he is.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       e) He&amp;#039;d get knocked down, &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;broken&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; humbled &amp;amp; not be so self-righteous, or have such a high opinion of himself.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       f) It would teach him to be much more thankful for what God has given him in the Family.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;4)&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; When Grandpa says that Tony might need to go to the System, does that mean that if &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;you&amp;#039;re&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; having battles or you&amp;#039;ve been going through a rough time for a while that it would be better for &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;you&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; to go to the System too?--&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;No&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;! To backslide &amp;amp; go to the System to learn needed lessons is &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;the last resort&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;--&amp;amp; it&amp;#039;s usually only necessary &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;after&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; a person has had the benefit of a &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;lot&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; of help, counsel, training, &amp;amp; many other opportunities to &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;change&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;repent&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;. Usually backsliders have chosen to deliberately &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;not&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; follow the counsel &amp;amp; guidance that they have been given, but instead want to continue in their own misguided &amp;amp; spiritually darkened state, so they leave the Family to seek what they mistakenly think will be &amp;quot;a better life&amp;quot; in the System.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       Tony&amp;#039;s situation is a lot different from yours! Let&amp;#039;s review how Tony is different from you.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       a) He&amp;#039;s 24 years old, much older than most of you &amp;amp; much more &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;accountable&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, because he&amp;#039;s had so much Word, training &amp;amp; experience.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       b) He&amp;#039;s received &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;lots of help&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; chances to repent in the form of counsel, Victor training, changes of location, personal attention from top leaders, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       c) He&amp;#039;s been a problem for &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;years&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; lots of people have tried to help him with his problems. &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Now&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; even Grandpa &amp;amp; Mama Maria have &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;personally&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; tried to help him. So if he doesn&amp;#039;t repent &amp;amp; change &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;now&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;, then the Lord will have no other choice but to give him a really &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;big chastening&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; in hopes that that will get through to him. &amp;quot;God&amp;#039;s Spirit will not always strive with Man.&amp;quot;--Gen.6:3&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;5)&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; Grandpa says that Tony is a troublemaker, that he&amp;#039;s like Judas. But you know, Tony &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;can&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; change if he &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;chooses&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; to yield to the Lord &amp;amp; repent. He doesn&amp;#039;t have to &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;stay&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; in that bad state, &amp;amp; if he does that which is good &amp;amp; repents, &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;unlike&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; Judas, the Lord will be able to use him again &amp;amp; he won&amp;#039;t be labelled permanently as a traitor. Let&amp;#039;s think of other examples where people were really off the track but they repented &amp;amp; changed &amp;amp; the Lord forgave them &amp;amp; continued to use them.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       a) Grandpa says that there was hardly a more wicked man than King David, but look what a saint he became when he was humbled &amp;amp; repented!&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       b) Peter &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;denied Jesus&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; 3 times--but he repented &amp;amp; the Lord forgave him, &amp;amp; he went on to be a great disciple.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       c) When Grandpa was young he forsook his place of service with his mother &amp;amp; joined the army. Before too long, he was &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;dying&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; in an army hospital, until he repented &amp;amp; promised the Lord that he&amp;#039;d serve Him if He&amp;#039;d just heal him. The Lord healed him &amp;amp; Grandpa went on to fulfill his destiny as God&amp;#039;s Endtime Prophet. (For more on this, please see &amp;quot;Shtick,&amp;quot; ML #703:32-34, &amp;amp; &amp;quot;God&amp;#039;s Chess Game,&amp;quot; ML #1951:63-65.)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       d) &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Many&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; people in our Family have also had very serious problems, but they &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;repented&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; the Lord has been able to &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;keep&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; using them--sometimes even more than before. For example, years ago Auntie Magdalene (then named Keda) was visiting Grandpa &amp;amp; Mama Maria &amp;amp; she had very serious spiritual problems. Grandpa said it was possibly Satan himself who was troubling her. But she received Grandpa&amp;#039;s strong rebuke, got serious with the Lord, called out to Him, had desperate prayer--&amp;amp; she&amp;#039;s gone on to be more used of the Lord than ever. PTL!&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       Or look at Auntie Faithy. Grandpa recently gave her a very big correction in &amp;quot;Rulebreakers Beware!&amp;quot; She was being disobedient &amp;amp; rebellious, but she didn&amp;#039;t &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;stay&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; in that bad spiritual state. She &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;repented&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; learned many lessons, which have been a great blessing to all of us! PTL!&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;       It&amp;#039;s &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;true&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; that &amp;quot;whoso &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;confesseth&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; &amp;amp; &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;forsaketh&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; his sins shall have &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;mercy&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;!&amp;quot;--Pro.28:13. Can you think of other examples of people you&amp;#039;ve known personally who have overcome their serious problems &amp;amp; become better vessels for the Lord? Or have &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;you&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; ever had such an experience? Please discuss.&lt;br /&gt;
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